SAP – Too Much, or Too Little Credit for PLM Efforts?
I had the chance to talk with … the PLM team at SAP recently to get an update on their plans and their progress to date. I have stayed in touch with them over the years, and have always been impressed by the opportunity they have to connect the business of manufacturing with the business of product development.
As I reflected on the conversation, I struggled to understand why after all of the years of SAP getting too much credit for PLM, why they don’t seem to be getting as much credit for their recent efforts as I would expect. Today I hope to present both sides of the argument in the hopes to bring some clarity to the subject, and to start a conversation so we can all learn from each other.
Too Much Credit?
I have focused a lot of discussion on the complementary roles of ERP and PLM, and for many companies that translates to the roles of SAP and PLM. I have cautioned manufacturers in the past:
- Not to assume that an ERP provider that “checks the box” for PLM actually has a suitable PLM suite
- Don’t assume that any company offering both ERP and PLM have actually integrated them in a way that works for their particular business
- PLM suites vary significantly between vendors, even among the “best-of-breed” vendors
- PLM is not just another module of ERP, but a suite of solutions itself with some unique requirements
Those comments were typically in reaction to the “suite provider effect” where executives take a cursory look at a software requirement (such as PLM) and say “Doesn’t our ERP company have that? Let’s just use theirs.” While the ERP vendor’s solution deserves a review, if it doesn’t meet the business needs than the potential benefits of a single vendor and an integrated solution don’t add up to much. This conversation started way back in 2003 with my article Can ERP Speak PLM? in Technology Evaluation Centers (TEC) when I served as the analyst for the PLM Evaluation Center.
With all of those cautions in mind, my hope was that manufacturers that have an ERP (such as SAP) would do a thorough evaluation of their needs, and then select the solution (or solutions) that would work best for their business. In other words, they shouldn’t just take PLM from their ERP provider blindly.
Not Enough Credit?
With all of those cautions aside, the ERP provider should get a fair evaluation. There are benefits to integration and a single vendor solution. And SAP has clearly invested in PLM. I wrote about SAP’s PLM strategy and roadmap in the past on my Manufacturing Business Technology blog.* SAP has taken on a multi-year program to enhance their PLM offering, and they have made significant progress. Last year they introduced a new, web-focused interface that pulls together a product-centric dashboard for an item. The “PLM Object Navigator” as it was called offers information about a part from both ERP and PLM perspectives, including configurable sidebars. They have now extended that interface to the process PLM community, where SAP has a significant installed base.
But user interface isn’t all that SAP has focused on. They have integrated CAD management and visual communication capabilities to develop visual representations of the CAD models that all users can access. They have added functionality including labeling functionality for consumer packaged goods (CPG). They have also enhanced product compliance, collaboration, and requirements management.
SAP has remained consistent in their focus to support four PLM “value scenarios,” enabling business processes to help manufacturers in specific initiatives to establish “Product and Service Leadership“:
- Consumer-Driven, Sustainable Innovation
- Integrated Product Development
- Continuous Product and Service Integration
- Embedded Product Compliance
The names have changed slightly over time, but the needs SAP is trying to meet are well-planned, important, and have remained consistent. Clearly, SAP has a plan and has been hard at work to achieve it.
The Confusion, and the Questions
When I talk to the SAP PLM team, I can feel the excitement and their sense of accomplishment. I hear about the progress on their plans and how they are fulfilling the needs of their customers. Yet from the manufacturers I speak with, I don’t feel the same enthusiasm. So here are my questions:
- Am I talking to the wrong companies, or the wrong people?
- Is it still too early?
- Did the down economy last year stall SAP’s ability to get the word out?
- Does SAP not have the ear of the product innovation, product development, and engineering staff?
- Are manufacturers tired of hearing what is coming?
- Is there just still more that needs to be done?
- Are the best-of-breed vendors too far ahead? Or too entrenched?
- Is there a slow revolution happening that I am just not in touch with?
So that’s what I hear from SAP, and my resulting confusion. I hope you found it interesting. What do you think? Can you help shed some light on my questions?
*Note: Sorry, no link to past posts on SAP PLM right now. Unfortunately the blog was taken offline by Reed Business when they closed the magazine. I hope to get that content back at some point to share with you.

Hi,rnrnI think a couple of people were interested in links to more SAP PLM information. rnrnCheck out YouTube for example for a high-level demo.rnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liK3nIHC6nwrnrnBesides that, you might want to visit the SAP PLM BPX Community page, there is an overview presentation on SAP PLM 7.0 posted there:rnhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/plmrnrnRegards, Ulf.rnrn
1Hi,rnrnI think a couple of people were interested in links to more SAP PLM information. rnrnCheck out YouTube for example for a high-level demo.rnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liK3nIHC6nwrnrnBesides that, you might want to visit the SAP PLM BPX Community page, there is an overview presentation on SAP PLM 7.0 posted there:rnhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/plmrnrnRegards, Ulf.rnrn
2Hi,rnrnI think a couple of people were interested in links to more SAP PLM information. rnrnCheck out YouTube for example for a high-level demo.rnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liK3nIHC6nwrnrnBesides that, you might want to visit the SAP PLM BPX Community page, there is an overview presentation on SAP PLM 7.0 posted there:rnhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/plmrnrnRegards, Ulf.rnrn
3Hi,rnrnI think a couple of people were interested in links to more SAP PLM information. rnrnCheck out YouTube for example for a high-level demo.rnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liK3nIHC6nwrnrnBesides that, you might want to visit the SAP PLM BPX Community page, there is an overview presentation on SAP PLM 7.0 posted there:rnhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/plmrnrnRegards, Ulf.rnrn
4Hi,
I think a couple of people were interested in links to more SAP PLM information.
Check out YouTube for example for a high-level demo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liK3nIHC6nw
Besides that, you might want to visit the SAP PLM BPX Community page, there is an overview presentation on SAP PLM 7.0 posted there:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/plm
Regards, Ulf.
5Ulf,
Thanks for posting the video. It does a nice job of showing the object navigator, and how it can pull information from different places. But the scenario wasn’t very realistic. There was no engineering work done to validate the new screen being proposed, and a “product manager ” made the change. I know I am nitpicking their demo, but I wonder if there is a lesson to be learned from this?
I find it interesting that the demo shows primarily business aspects of the product (inventory, sales, quality, supplier, supplier specs) versus technical ones. In my ERP-PLM roles research, I have discussed ERP as “the business of manufacturing” while PLM is “Innovation” focused. This demo (to me) would suggest that any technical work that needed to be done, such as determining whether the new screen require any changes to the embedded software, impacts regulatory compliance, taxes the power supply, or changes the manufacturing processes, happens outside of this system. Where would that work be managed? Simply changing a BOM (without an engineering change request or approval process, but again I am nitpicking) is typically not the answer to a more complex problem.
I know it’s a simple demo. And it does a great job showing how business information for a product can be consolidated and viewed. But what about engineering? I know SAP has done some work there too, I was surprised not to see it.
Just my initial reactions. Thanks to Ulf for passing this along.
Jim
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